US Army Sniper vs Marine Scout Sniper Who is the "Best Sniper"?

Content from an article by Joshua Skovlund from coffeeordie.com.

Translated and edited by: Thepphong Chaiyarat

US Army snipers and US Marine Corps snipers
Which side will have the most legendary sniper accuracy?

The origins of American snipers are not entirely clear.
There are reports of snipers dating back to the American Revolution.
(Around 1775 or more than 245 years ago)

The first sniper school was established in the United States under
The United States Army is the United States Marine Corps Sniper School.
At Juantico, Virginia in 1977 and the U.S. Army.
Later established a sniper school at Fort Benning, Georgia.
In 1985, the famous battle between two sniper brothers was fought.
Which is longer than the lifespan of the training schools of both armed forces.

Carlos Hatcock in Vietnam

For the legendary sniper on the Marine side, there is
Carlos Hathcock

Or under the alias White Feather, who has a record of killings.
He has 93 confirmed deaths in the Vietnam War from the enemies he killed.
There were several cases of brutality and one of them was a female Viet Cong named

"Apache"

According to the website Military.com, she is mentioned as follows:

"'She tortured the US Marines she managed to capture for half an afternoon.'
Carlos recalled what he saw: 'I was always on the lookout for my area.
But this young Marine was unfortunately out of my sight.'
'She skinned his private parts. She cut off his eyelids. She pulled out his nails.
And she cut off his testicles, that's all she did before she let go.
This young Marine goes, 'I tried to help him, but I was too late.'"

On the army side, there is Adelbert Waldron.
Who is also one of the legendary snipers of the Vietnam War?

After spending 12 years in the U.S. Navy,
Adelbert chose to transfer to the Army, starting out as a sergeant.
and is stationed at the mouth of the Mekong River Delta

Major General Julian Ewell tells Waldron's story.
The one with the eyes like a hawk said, "One afternoon, as he was sitting,
On a medium-sized landing craft in the Mekong River, there were snipers hiding on the shore.
Shooting was started at the ship, while everyone was in shock about what was happening.
and try to find where the enemy sniper is 900 meters away.

Sergeant Waldron took out his sniper rifle.
and shot a Viet Cong sniper hiding on top of a coconut tree with a single shot."

Coffee or Die interviewed a US Army sniper and
A U.S. Marine sniper says his career is both bipartisan.
What are the differences in performance of duties?

Logan Stark while serving as a Marine sniper in Afghanistan.

Black Rifle Coffee Company Editor Logan Stark
He began his career as a sniper in the United States Marine Corps.
In May 2007, after serving in the army for more than 4 years.
and has completed 3 field missions abroad

Stark passed the test and eventually graduated from sniper school.
He said the hardest thing in school was shooting with live ammunition.
Which is a real bullet shooting with no fixed pattern because on paper
The test was stated to be fired at 1,000 yards, but when it was actually fired,
Ranges range from 750 yards to 1,000 yards.

Which makes the range of each person different.
And it makes calculating wind direction for shooting even more difficult.

However, the difficult conditions that everyone has faced will become
What makes everyone have great skills as a sniper?
A top U.S. Marine spy, according to what Stark said,
It is about being a sniper who can process information quickly and calmly.
And can make decisive decisions in assigned missions.

"This is why I joined the Marines.
"That is, come in and do something that is difficult," he said.
"There's nothing bad about it. It's just a really fun memory."

While Stark never saw action directly with U.S. Army snipers,
He learned through the sniper community that the key differences between snipers are:
From the two armed forces:

"The reconnaissance portion of the Sniper Reconnaissance Training Program
As a U.S. Marine, we are trained to be a mission-capable unit.
By myself with only 4 members in the team and no need for any additional support."

Philippe Velayo prepares to shoot at a target on the training ground.

Phillip Velayo spent more than 10 and a half years as a member of the group.
A U.S. Marine Corps Sniper, he passed the Sniper Reconnaissance Training Course on his second attempt and served as an instructor from 2015 to 2018.

He is now the coaching director for the university.
Gunwerks Long Range University

When Yo had the opportunity to work with former US Army snipers,
And from talking to him, he learned that the training period at the US Army Sniper School is shorter, only 5 weeks, compared to the Sniper School.
The United States Marine Corps has a 3-week testing period and if passed,
The study will take place over a period of 79 days (about 12 weeks), he added.
The US Army's snipers focus on precision shooting skills.
More than just a battle plan, the US Army has a direct reconnaissance unit.

While Marine sniper scouts are expected
Responsible for both reconnaissance and shooting.

Weyo gave an example of how if you take a Marine who has never trained before,
And let him study at a sniper school, compared to soldiers from the army.
You might think that the result would be a good sniper, but for me,
I think the Marine Corps side will be better because our training standards are higher.
Of the army side

Brady Kirwant ready for action

Brady Cervantes spent time in the United States Marine Corps.
As a sniper scout for over 10 years since 2006
and has completed 4 field missions abroad.
Kervants went through sniper training school on his second attempt, having been forced to leave the first time.
He left school early because of something that happened in his family.

"One thing I respect about the Army is the training curriculum.
"It's more intense than the Marines'," Kervants said, drawing comparisons.
The curriculum of the two schools, with the addition of the Army curriculum
It will delve into the mission focus stage.

of a sniper, but he believes that the course
The U.S. Marine Corps has the highest standards within the sniper community.

Kervants said if you bring in a Marine scout sniper,
Put in another group, conversation between the locator and the gunner.
It will still be the same for smooth teamwork.

In the experience of Kerwant, a US Army sniper team
There is no clear and specific dialogue between the locator and the gunner.

But ultimately, Kirwant said, "If you're a sniper brother,
You will get my respect."

Ted Giunta was a former sniper with the 75th Ranger Regiment in the U.S. Army.

Ted Giunta is one of the members of
75th Assault Regiment, 2nd Battalion, U.S. Army

From 2003 to 2009, he joined the Sniper Squad.
In 2006, he completed four overseas field missions.
As a sniper and in 3 rounds as a team leader after retiring from the army.
He has worked with the U.S. Department of Energy on nuclear transport.

He is one of two rifle instructors under the Ministry of Labor.

Ji-Woon-ta attended the US Army's Target Eradication course.
(US Army Special Operation Target Interdiction Course - SOTIC)

He believes that the Marine Corps and Army sniper training programs
They are similar in terms of training and evaluation of testers.
But for SOTIC training, it's a different story. It's like a "gentleman's course".
In the training, there will be no rehearsal or pressure, but only an assessment of the tester.
Can you carry out the assigned missions?

Ji-Un said that if compared to a Marine Corps sniper,
With the snipers of the 75th Assault Regiment, it will come down to financial support.
Both units, because his unit and the missions received will be Tier 2.
Which is often done with Tier 1 units, allowing his unit to gain access.
Better training equipment and coaching gives you an advantage.
Marine Reconnaissance Sniper

Ji-Woon said that working as a sniper is an art.
And no matter what branch of the military you're in, you have to make it your life.

Andrew Wiscombe and his sniper unit

Andrew Wiscombe was a United States Army soldier.
From 2005 to 2010, it was stationed at the Forward Operating Base (FOB) in Mamuhdiyya, Iraq.
From 2008 to 2009 as a member of the Sniper Reconnaissance Team

Wiscombe said the U.S. Army sniper on the Sniper/Reconnaissance team
In particular, it has capabilities comparable to a Marine Corps reconnaissance sniper team.
Because if compared to soldiers who have been trained at sniper schools and
He was able to return to his original infantry unit, where he did not often use the skills he had learned.
They cannot remain at the same level.

The most different thing that Wiscombe could think of was the use of a formula for firing.
"The Army uses meters as a unit of measurement, but the Marines use yards as a unit of measurement.
"So the formula used to calculate it is a little bit different," Wiscombe said.

"Although there are some minor differences in the details, the basics of sniper shooting on both sides
It's the same and there may be some mocking stories from both sides, but in the end,
There is only mutual respect for the skilled gunners and positioners."

James Koopman looks through a scope at a lookout point.

Jaime Koopman served in the U.S. Army for over 8 years.
From 2008 to 2016, he worked with recon snipers.
He has served in the Marine Corps several times as a sniper and has had subordinates.
Two former Marine snipers were captured after they
Request to transfer to the army

Koopman also worked with former military sniper scouts.
Marines and many more during the international sniper competition
International Sniper Competition
of the US Army Special Operations Command (USASOC)

Koopman's experience with Marine sniper scouts showed him that
Their training is different from that of a sniper school.
The army's is not that much, but it can still be compared.

"Being a Marine sniper is a specialized field.
Therefore, their training period in school is longer.
To provide students with the opportunity to study at a deeper level in each subject area"

"While Army snipers are expected to receive
More knowledge from the experiences he gained outside with his group."

If we compare the results from international competitions,
2019 USASOC International Sniper Competition

Number 1 and 2 are mostly from special operations units.
US Army Special Operations Command (USASOC)
While Team 3 was a Marine reconnaissance sniper team.

The 2020 competition has been postponed.
Due to the COVID-19 situation

Source

https://coffeeordie.com/sniper-vs-sniper/ , 14 July 2020